[jennys]

It's totally possible that the developers behind CEX -> DEX leaked the info on purpose under an anonymous title to better the scene. Too bad the definition of "anonymous" prohibits us from knowing exactly why it was for no better term "leaked". Even if that was not the case there are now developers working on methods and software to exploit the DEX for everything it is worth proving that there are many developers for the PS3 that aren't in it only for the money.

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by jennys It's totally possible that the developers behind CEX -> DEX leaked the info on purpose under an anonymous title to better the scene. Too bad the definition of "anonymous" prohibits us from knowing exactly why it was for no better term "leaked". Even if that was not the case there are now developers working on methods and software to exploit the DEX for everything it is worth proving that there are many developers for the PS3 that aren't in it only for the money.

The hole in that theory is that the leak was incomplete and that there are chat logs/other proof of CEX to DEX conversions being done a year ago almost. The other thing is how pissed devs got. Shouldn't they have acted all happy and surprised like the rest of us and not as if someone just stole their car?

Some sleazy guy/dev named SonicISO conned squarepusher out of quite a bit of money to convert his ps3 a long while before this was leaked.


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[hellsing9]

The ones who think that CEX>DEX will last forever are *delusional*, next update = BAM!!! so better act fast and be accurate.
Nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong in using a partial and filtered method. Nothing wrong with nothing, that's the issue.

It's huge step for the end users, and it's a huge stepback for some devs.
Provide a download link, and nice and well redacted tutorial and users will trow you roses and poetry verses.
You don't provide anything, or just speculate. You get crucified. (Literally)

Information is POWER, and the one who stayed enough in this place and visited the dark corners of other places as well, heard some *tales* about this method being effective and working in some *priviliged* unknown PS3's. Or even heard names.

[nickkvsnickk]

I like to believe this cex to dex thing could be the way but it dosent look like it would be for the every day guy any time soon and i personaly hate the idea of the dongles but at the end of the day this scene is all about the money except a few good guys whos helping the scene thanks to them we keep our ps3 on 3.55 but now PSN is no more and even if hackers can get back on which i believe they and probably already on they might or might not release it so that being said, I would be one of the first to buy a true blue if they release with PSN and have a dedicated team to keep it there which is what the seen is really missing I mean even if i have to play old games the PSN is the most IMPORTANT. Im not worried though i Have a back up plan just bought XBOX off ebay so i would spend my money and flash my drive and play online freely and even though xbox release a update they fix it in less than a week so i would keep my on the release of the new TB they are greedy but aleast they are doing something!!!!!

[stuck?]

Originally Posted by jennys Removed the length TL;DR click the button to read the real quote

Originally Posted by HulkWogan @ jennys what's with the holier than thou attitude? why you feel the need to belittle users at every opportunity is beyond me, especially when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I think she hit the nail on the head with the post I quoted above. People need their hand held for every simple and mundane task these days.

Do you remember learning to ride your bike? Your parent would take the training wheels off, you'd get on your two-wheeler (without your helmet, knee pads, elbow pads, etc) and fall and knock your head on the concrete in the first couple of seconds. Oops, guess I won't do that again (what lead up to the fall).

It's experience. We don't have any experience anymore with the birth of the internet and how we can just read about how to do anything. Without the physical hands-on experience a lot of procedure is missed. That's .. my thought anyway.

Sure, you can read read read and take in all this information, but having not done any of it, are you REALLY able to say you are qualified? Do you feel confident on performing a simple surgery because you read about it on the internet? While you MAY know EXACTLY what to do and WHEN, you don't have the hands-on experience which is CRUCIAL!

I may sound like I'm talking out my ass, but from my experiences and from watching people make mistakes and go through their own experiences I've learned a LOT.

Hence why I won't go out and buy a progskeet for my ps3 or do some CEX-DEX... I don't know linux at all and I've never soldered. I'd want to get some HANDS ON experience before I jump in and start plugging away.

That's just me, I like knowing what I'm getting into before I get into it (and I like to be prepared).

[japsander]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 It's huge step for the end users, and it's a huge stepback for some devs.

dont be foolish. it is in no way a step back. the future cannot be relied upon as a basis to call it a step back.

at the very worst, those devs are in exactly the same position they were in before the leak.

the scene has now progressed, that is what matters and in such a way that trueblue have lost potential sales and we are closer to freedom from re-drm

without the leak, the scene would still be at TB's and clones mercy

the only reason i can think of to call it an actual step back is in regards to those making profit from its possibilities

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by japsander dont be foolish. it is in no way a step back. the future cannot be relied upon as a basis to call it a step back. at the very worst, those devs are in exactly the same position they were in before the leak. the scene has now progressed, that is what matters and in such a way that trueblue have lost potential sales and we are closer to freedom from re-drm without the leak, the scene would still be at TB's and clones mercy the only reason i can think of to call it an actual step back is in regards to those making profit from its possibilities

I was and will be always ANTI-DRM, but this (from my twisted point of view) It's not a coincidence.
The leak, TB/E3 Being silent.
Or im just thinking too much about something or im thinking in the wrong way.
Yes, with the filtered method was a HUGE slap in the face to DRM devices (creators) but in the other hand like i said, this leak was not an *accident*.
Someone choose to release the method (40% of it) with the proper tools. For me for two reasons:
1) E3 team as well as TB team gone rogue, totally silent.
2) The vox populi demanding some quick solution was getting very *tense*.

Now you got the conversion, fine i can deal with that and i love the idea.
But always (it's my weak point) i try to picture myself in both sides.
As a Dev (im not one) and As a User. (im am one).

Maybe im foolish or too naïve for this kind of things. But there's something that i don't understand in this whole situation.
If from the Dongle *flank* went silent, then Cex>Dex method appears, and now the Dongle poison appears again with some new charade and some *news* about a possible release. This don't means that they are *powerless* or out of ideas. They are trying to create a *gap*.
Maybe all of this was a very useful distraction, who knows?.

I don't care being wrong, or foolish.
But i do care about something, the community.

I repeat, maybe im dead wrong. But who knows?! really.

[pois0n]

Hopefully now that DEX is out E3 will realize there is no need for a dongle for 3.60+ games so they will release there cfw they were promising. Even if it is a cfw dongle it still helps those stuck on 3.60+

[Gonzakpo]

Well, DEX allows you to run unsigned code on higher debug firmwares so my hope is that this will lead to higher retail firmwares being hacked too. I don't think that keeping this method private would lead to anything. Now that it's public there are a lot of theories and brain storming and the scene is much more interesting. So, I'm in favor of the leak.

[nomad098]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 Look who is *****ing about dongle news ( @nomad098 )...the one who got infracted (i don't remember the reason) and telling weeks ago that this was not *news* because i was publishing something similar. So it's no news if you post it, me or annelies...but it's news now because pirate frontpaged it. I think i will shuffle for a while.

the reason i said it was not news when you posted was because it was old news