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Old 09-02-2012   #71
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The wife works for a christian charity to help people get out of debt, I know the people she helps know god is around.
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Old 09-02-2012   #72
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The wife works for a christian charity to help people get out of debt, I know the people she helps believe god is around.
FTFY, buddy.
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yeh i believe that there is one
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i'll just leave this here:



The social argument – it’s true because if you accept that it’s true you get a better life. You become part of a community. Implies that acceptance of a belief verifies that belief. Applies to any religion or way of thinking that provides you with something to believe in.
The book argument – it’s true because the book says that it’s true. It’s bad to question the book, because of the book being true. Applies to any belief system that relies on written doctrine.
The force of numbers argument – it’s true because lots of other people believe that it’s true, and so many believers can’t be wrong. Implies, by definition, that everything that a lot of people believe is true, is true.
The belief argument – it’s true because I believe it to be true. Implies that belief is truth.
The investment argument – it’s true because I’ve invested so much effort in this belief that my life would be largely a ridiculous waste of time if it were not true. Implies that the more energy you put into a belief, the truer it becomes.
The integrity argument – It’s true because I’ve told other people that it’s true, and I am not a liar. Implies that the dissemination of a belief verifies the belief.
The experiential argument – it’s true because I have experienced the influence of the thing I believe in. Implies that people do not interpret their life experiences according to influencing environmental factors, background, emotional, and personal needs.
The inner peace argument – it’s true because I feel peaceful when I believe that there is something big and supernatural looking after my interests. Implies that gaining peace of mind through believing in something is a good basis for judging whether that thing is real.
The strength argument – it’s true because I feel stronger inside myself because of believing that it is true. Implies that inner strength that comes from believing in something verifies the belief.
The ignorance argument – it’s true because there are a lot of complicated things in this world that I don’t understand except by believing that they must have got here by magic performed by a supernatural being. Implies that ignorance is a good basis for deciding that something is true.
The indoctrination argument – it’s true because this is what I have been taught. Implies that indoctrinating someone into believing in something, establishes the truth of that thing.
The frightening alternative argument – it’s true because the alternative frightens me. Implies that truth depends on whether or not you are comfortable with it.
The self-interest argument – it’s true because people have told me that if I don’t believe I will go to Hell, and if I do believe I will go to Heaven. Implies that self-interest is impressive to a god.
The character reference argument – it’s true because everyone who knows me knows that I would not believe in something that is not true. Implies that hearsay of character references inform the truth of a subject.
The false prophet argument – it’s true because everyone who disagrees is a false prophet. Implies that no argument against a set dogma can be valid.
The shifting sand argument – it’s true because I hold fast to each argument until you prove it is not valid. Implies that truth is flexible.
The scared argument – it’s true because I am a coward and can’t face life without the psychological prop of this belief to hold on to. Implies that psychological props are truths.
The intelligent design argument – it’s true because it is completely obvious to everyone except those who refuse to accept it that this fantastic world we live in could not just have sprung out of nothing. Implies that lack of scientific knowledge invests the truth in those who are ignorant.
The can’t think argument – it’s true because I really can’t think of a viable alternative. Implies that a lack of thinking skills makes any particular belief viable.
The how dare you argument – it’s true because how dare you question my beliefs? Implies that even the most ridiculous beliefs should not be questioned.
The me argument – it’s true for me, and that’s all I care about. Implies again, that belief is truth.

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You're an idiot. Nothing more needs to be said than that. The level of sheer scientific ignorance and stupidity you've just exhibited goes beyond words.


Then you would get an equal response by praying to a milk jug.
Ugh...I hate internet warriors. I would beg you to say that to me in person. I promise you wouldn't or you would regret it if you did. I guess that would never happen so that's why you feel brave and safe enough to disrespect me here, on the internet. Because you're nestled in your little cocoon of safety behind your computer screen where you feel secure enough to troll. Despite every one elses beliefs on here everybody here has kept it civil for the most part. But you have to bring your insults. Btw, thanks for your fine scientific input. Oh that's right, you didn't say anything halfway intelligent outside of insults. We could all barely grasp your level of fine analysis. My head is still spinning as I'm trying to wrap my mind around your hypothesis. I hope somebody will put it in a book for dummies.
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Old 09-02-2012   #76
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Uh oh........



Try and keep it civil guys.
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Old 09-02-2012   #77
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Nope, no god. Cmon, no one came with a book of rules and told us how to live.
All evolution. Wouldn't say that I would outrule aliens though.. It would be ridiculous to think we are alone And dno, perhaps aliens made this planet inhabitable or even created it in the first place. I don't know, but there is no god, in the way it is defined in any holy book imo, that states he/she created the world, the first two humans, and had them hanging around, until they ate an apple or something similar believed in the different religions.

But if an/some extraterrestial being(s) created the world or started the reaction that led to it, then I guess they would classify as gods and there would be one/some. I mean, cmon, of course we are not alone. Earth is smaller in the universe than a drop of water is in the pacific.
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There are some in depth replies since my last post.
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God is Dog spelled backwards.
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God is Dog spelled backwards.
Only in English. Works though as it seems dogs serve man and man serves God.
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