[SeanP2500]

its such a sad thing annlies is basically saying lets give peace a chance and gosh this is how i feel in my heart as well but there are some terrible problems with this

first of all all the people bringing up armed forces this is part of the huge problem with humanity we allow a small group of families to rule over us and command us to kill other humans on their behalf that lunacy really really needs to stop...while it is a nice tool to draw upon to protect us honestly it is a symptom of the bigger problem...

what changed me was realizing that both sides of every major global conflict for the past 200 years (heck maybe even longer the history is quite muddled) have been funded by the same bloodlines...so we are not winning as a species no sir...we are being made to kill each other...but darn it it's too far gone now so now what do we do as a species...well guns are a tool at this point and should not be banned sadly while ideally we should have a society free of guns and humans should be thriving and living in harmony this is not the case...there are evil circles which rule us and would love to have us stripped of guns...

look at a globe and look around this is the last place left really where guns are allowed in the 1st world...places like australia uk and japan were all neutered long ago...Swiss are a notable exception but it's a clue look into the countries history and it's influence in international banking...i am afraid the fact this nation was allowed to keep it's guns is no coincidence...

truly a sad situation

[madman158]

Originally Posted by SeanP2500 its such a sad thing annlies is basically saying lets give peace a chance and gosh this is how i feel in my heart as well but there are some terrible problems with this first of all all the people bringing up armed forces this is part of the huge problem with humanity we allow a small group of families to rule over us and command us to kill other humans on their behalf that lunacy really really needs to stop...while it is a nice tool to draw upon to protect us honestly it is a symptom of the bigger problem... what changed me was realizing that both sides of every major global conflict for the past 200 years (heck maybe even longer the history is quite muddled) have been funded by the same bloodlines...so we are not winning as a species no sir...we are being made to kill each other...but darn it it's too far gone now so now what do we do as a species...well guns are a tool at this point and should not be banned sadly while ideally we should have a society free of guns and humans should be thriving and living in harmony this is not the case...there are evil circles which rule us and would love to have us stripped of guns... look at a globe and look around this is the last place left really where guns are allowed in the 1st world...places like australia uk and japan were all neutered long ago...Swiss are a notable exception but it's a clue look into the countries history and it's influence in international banking...i am afraid the fact this nation was allowed to keep it's guns is no coincidence... truly a sad situation

I agree with this post. But if i may add. U.S. Government has stuck their nose in so many other country's business and made alot of enemy's along the way. One of the only things that keeps war off our land is the fact they know not only do our armed forces can and will fight them but every house they come to also.

[crazelunatic]

If that is the case then in the armed forces when the first shot goes off and they are not prepared for it they all shot one another. But that is not the case. Why?? They are trained about how to use and respect a gun. Then know what it sounds like. So they dont panic when it goes off. They are trainer if a gun goes off out of nowhere to duck, cover and prepare. Now if you had read what i said before (If you are even reading this) instead of think that i dont agree with you that im just a "rednecks from the southern boonies". I said TRAIN how to use and RESPECT a gun. *** Oh by the way. Im from Glens Falls NY. I got bachelor's degree for industrial machine repair and i drive a jag. Not some poor, uneducated white farmer. Unless you are calling me a bigot. Cause that would make you a bigot/redneck too. Its uncalled for to be name calling when i took no shots at you.*** I grew up in the gutter, ghetto Eastside Long Beach (born and raised). The funny thing is you dont hear about this crap in the ghetto. Not saying it can not or will not happen their but they are more prepared for it ( metal detectors cops on site and you never know who else is carrying). Its almost always the suburbs. Ask yourself why that is? Could it be cause they are more prone to be victims?

Im from and still live in NYC where we have some of the strictest gun laws in the country and I live near areas where the murder rate for the city are some of the highest.... The only reason i am for stricter gun control (yes ill admit something of a dreamer) because i know that the government is not gonna make an effort to arm/educate everyone either..... There will always be defenseless groups @ the mercy of gun toting maniacs. As for the issue of guns not being in "criminals" hands and the mentally ill as far as I know being mentally ill is not against the law and I have been diagnosed with mental illness...I have no criminal record yet there will never be a chance where i live or anywhere in the country for that matter of me owning a gun simply because we take the blame from the material object and shift it to people with criminal records and mental illness... Yes they have rights too.... I mean what happens if a bunch of ex-cons get gunned down or persons with mental illness? what are pro gun advocated gunna scream next? They should have been armed No what you will see them say next is that there lives are worthless because there either a.criminals.b.mentally ill c.poor and combinations of the three i mentioned above. I always wonder if im the victim of a mass shooting would the media report if i had mental illness, what would be said next?

[FL321]

they Should arrest all the pill companyZ and Ban them for all the Deaths and Addicts that they made.Fu#$ing Blu junkies........Ban Blu s...



ARM THE HOMELESS

[Firebuble]

i dont care, its not my country, but there should be a firearm school with psychological tests for thoose who want one

[crazelunatic]

i dont care, its not my country, but there should be a firearm school with psychological tests for thoose who want one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting Ironically the person who would be administering the test is the one who went nuts

[BobbyBangin]

Well worth the read - COLUMBINE STUDENT'S FATHER 12 YEARS LATER !! Guess our national leaders didn't expect this. On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee's subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfull
y truthful.

They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.. The following is a portion of the transcript:

"Since the dawn of creation there has been both good &evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.

"The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain's heart.

"In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA - because I don't believe that they are responsible for my daughter's death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel's murder I would be their strongest opponent

I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy -- it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.

Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
Your words are empty air.
You've stripped away our heritage,
You've outlawed simple prayer.
Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
And precious children die.
You seek for answers everywhere,
And ask the question "Why?"
You regulate restrictive laws,
Through legislative creed.
And yet you fail to understand,
That God is what we need!

"Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact.
What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws.
Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

"As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him.
To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!
My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"
- Darrell Scott

[crazelunatic]

["Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation's history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine's tragedy occurs -- politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts. "As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA -- I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone! My daughter's death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!"

I agree that there is nothing wrong with allowing prayer back in secular public schools but you can't compare restrictive laws with casting a stone... Im sure Jesus would have said to pro gun advocates this... Its not with swords or a military but with my holy spirit (sorry i dont know the whole verse in english as i know it better in spanish and its in galatians if you look it up) If that were the case the people of Israel could have told Moses to go F himself and his commandments because GOD is restricting our liberty

[fanboysarestupid]

Banning or limiting guns in US is pointless, ridiculous and laughable.

Regardless of whatever the government may try it's not the guns which are the problem, but to whom they are given.

If I were in US and they were talking about banning guns I'd speak up and say it's completely pointless since it's not the solution. Also suggest methods than banning/restricting guns.

[Dartban214]

Originally Posted by crazelunatic I agree that there is nothing wrong with allowing prayer back in secular public schools but you can't compare restrictive laws with casting a stone... Im sure Jesus would have said to pro gun advocates this... Its not with swords or a military but with my holy spirit (sorry i dont know the whole verse in english as i know it better in spanish and its in galatians if you look it up) If that were the case the people of Israel could have told Moses to go F himself and his commandments because GOD is restricting our liberty

There is actualy a verse (If I remember correctly) where it is said that it's better to have a sword than clothes on your back.

Look I agree MORE gun control laws will NOT help. Look at all the places where weapons are allowed compared to the places where guns are not. Chicago, NYC, etc. They have MANY problems with crime. Hell Chicago has a higher death rate than Iran and Iraq. That tell you something?

Just because you make something illegal doesn't mean it will automatically stop.

Some examples:

MODDING(HELLO YOUR ON A F*** Haxing Site!!!) Alcohol use(Prohibition act. If you remember people were constantly making moonshine which in turn made it worse of course it has been repealed) Mary J(Legal in a couple states now for REC use but majority still say no and Federal law says no)

Another couple of questions. Has anyone heard that other countries have admited that the main reason they do not attack America is because the people are armed. Why do you think they push for gun control hmm???

ALSO just because we tell Ammunition manufacturers to stop doesn't mean there won't be a demand. Look at the US army. Where do you think they get their ammo? Manufacturers.

Just keep in mind who owns guns in states which have higher gun control laws. Crime syndicates.

Now don't get me wrong this was a TRADGEDY. But something was wrong with the boy and HE WASN'T THE PERSON WHO OWNED THE WEAPON!

His mom apparently owned the weapon in turn making her responsible for it's safe keeping. Why was the gun safe not locked? Or why wasn't it secured?

Look I'm 21 right now own a 700Remington 7mm XCR rifle(Hunting/Sniper rifle bolt action of course), a Ruger 10/22 with Bacanti rails, and a 12gauge shotgon. These are ALWAYS locked up. No one in the house knows the code except me and I have had thurough background checks(legal weapons haha).

I understand the kid was 20. Ok well that doesn't matter. Depending on the state you can't buy certian weapons without a background check and on top of that certian types.


Also who is the person who defines what a Assault rifle is? Just because it is Semi-Auto does NOT mean it's an Assault rifle. Hell I know people who have Semi-Auto Hunting rifles. I also know people who have Semi-Auto shotguns(awsome for fast hunting a pidgeon*clay* haha)



I like this guys post. Keep going bud.