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    XBOX 1 BUNDLE/PRICE DROP AND WHY IT MAY NOT MATTER

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    Why Titanfall

    That game ought to be given away free. It REQUIRES an xbox live subscription...

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    Artificially prolonged life of previous generation.
    Lack of backwards compatibility.
    No new features other than improved graphics.

    It was kind of obvious it'd end up this way. Especially lack of backwards compatibility, what are you supposed to play on those consoles ? few games that were rushed and didn't even get a proper polish? well ms console works also as an gimmick remote. But overall meh. This is first generation of consoles ever I don't even feel like buying.

    As for nintendo - well they're stuck in 90's way of thinking. Their graphics are behind, they abandoned their only con from previous generation which was motion controls and their internet support is a joke. I've got 3ds and i'm amazed console released in this day and age has such retarded online functions.

    I think ms and sony should either start working on next generation fast, add backwards compatibility asap or get ready for a couple of rough years.

    Nintendo should just give up on wii u and make new console, meanwhile improve their online support on 3ds.


    As for sony being ahead - well the fact they kept on giving nice 1st party titles ended up helping them in the end. People buy sony products because they know there'll be at least a few games they'll want to play and they'll be available only on ps4. What about ms ? They got halo, forza and fable, all of them generic games, might be well made and fun but they ain't games that you'd be wiling to make sacrafices to play.

    There's also fact they screwed up communication with gamers, threw in bunch of drm region locks and **** and went cheap not adding backwards compatibility... something that can be forgiven on sony side given it did use cell in ps3. Besides sony is indeed trying to do something about backwards compatibility issues.. I'd prolly buy ps4 once it could run all ps2 games in software emulation, not some remote cloud like gaikai but emulation on a hardware... well that and once they'd actually release an improved model.. i had too many bad experiences with sony hardware and when i think about ps4 i think about chinese workers spitting inside console during manufacturing process.
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    Thumbs up Spot on ashtonx

    Although I am a die hard SONY fan... ashtonx hit it on the head. This is the state of the gaming world as he alluded to and
    is is correct as soothsayer talking about the future of all the big players in Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.
    ashtonx please brief us on the PS Vita scene...
    How do you feel that PS4 games can be streamed excellently on the PSVita,
    yet not on the PS3

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    on the way in UK - http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...A_UK_GooglePLA

    £399 with TitanFall 14Tth March

    or get a FIFA 14 with xbox one now for £399

    even pre-order titan bundle for £370

    http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gamesgear/37...here-50013442/

    but as the $100 ps3 trade in may not have produced massive increase in sales
    How long before I find xbox1 in next happy meal or fallin out of corn flakes packet - I'm gonna sue if it breaks my best china bowl???

    wanna shift some xbox1's - if it gets hacked you won't be able to keep up
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    PS4 == History repeats allready and the PS4 will break everything...

    XBone == She even get selled more less, no Bone in Japan and various other Countrys. A own XBone Model that even don't play ANY game is allready intend for release by M$.

    Nifty == They have a static shematic on selling consoles: Good, Bad, Good, Bad, Good, Bad,...... from this static sheme - Wii Good Sell, Wii-U Bad Sell, Next Gen "Wuu I" (or what ever) Good Sell
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    Quote Originally Posted by genremediahk View Post
    Although I am a die hard SONY fan... ashtonx hit it on the head. This is the state of the gaming world as he alluded to and
    is is correct as soothsayer talking about the future of all the big players in Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo.
    ashtonx please brief us on the PS Vita scene...
    How do you feel that PS4 games can be streamed excellently on the PSVita,
    yet not on the PS3
    lol no idea not interested in vita untill they completely break it, then i'll look console up :P then again sucks they're gonna remove oled screens rather than enforce user interfaces that won't burn in the screen so easily.

    As for stream failing on ps3 - well only reason i can think of is that sony is lazy.. or sony thought ahead and designed vita and ps4 for better wireless latency... still i'd go with lazy, streaming from ps4 to ps3 might be pointless from their point of view.


    Quote Originally Posted by cfwprpht View Post
    PS4 == History repeats allready and the PS4 will break everything...

    XBone == She even get selled more less, no Bone in Japan and various other Countrys. A own XBone Model that even don't play ANY game is allready intend for release by M$.

    Nifty == They have a static shematic on selling consoles: Good, Bad, Good, Bad, Good, Bad,...... from this static sheme - Wii Good Sell, Wii-U Bad Sell, Next Gen "Wuu I" (or what ever) Good Sell
    ps4 sales in japan look bad as well, actually japan became really weird market for games, rather it seems whether something sells there or doesn't works in opposite way for the rest of the world ;/
    Either way I wouldn't put nail in xbone coffin, that tv gimmick is actually one interesting thing in this generation, they still have strong position and kinect which is casual favorite.. then again i doubt people who actually like kinect would care about better graphics than stuff provided on x360 and lack of buttons is a put off for core gamers. In the end it's prolly all up to new ms ceo.
    Oh and the new gamepad on xbone looks awesome :>

    As for n while i do hope nintendo will do better the fact they're closing their online services for nds and wii feels like a proof they're looking down on internet. I mean what else do they got, 3ds is still in growing up phase and wii u was born as walking corpse.. besides they're crap about making toys not video consoles, redundancy of their 1st party ip's and so on.. only thing that keeps them from death is not listening to idiots who want them to make cellphone games... then again they did threw in a friggin tablet on a gamepad so i ain't sure if that makes any difference now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashtonx View Post
    lol no idea not interested in vita untill they completely break it, then i'll look console up :P then again sucks they're gonna remove oled screens rather than enforce user interfaces that won't burn in the screen so easily.
    Umm, what? I own a Vita and keep up with its scene well enough. This is the first time I've heard of burn in issues. OLED is being kicked to the curb to save on production costs, not burn in.

    The only issue I have heard of is lines/spots on black screens and that is not an issue, it's from the way OLED screens are made.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 running OmniROM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesethief View Post
    Umm, what? I own a Vita and keep up with its scene well enough. This is the first time I've heard of burn in issues. OLED is being kicked to the curb to save on production costs, not burn in.

    The only issue I have heard of is lines/spots on black screens and that is not an issue, it's from the way OLED screens are made.

    Sent from my Nexus 4 running OmniROM
    Well oleds do get burn ins like plasma, but then again after this many years of plasma tv's they developed technologies to minimize the problem. I heard about the issues with vita, but I guess image retention would be more likely and prolly commonly mistaken for burn ins by most of people. Dunno how you used your vita, but then again there were times i've spent a month playing same game and it was only thing running on my tv (thankfully crt back then) wouldn't be surprised to know people would get burn ins on oled from something like that.

    Still I guess cost cutting sounds more likely, still too bad they're switching to lcd ;/

    Anyway I ain't gonna argue as i didn't have experience with it on my own, while i think oled tech is great it's still in early phase and has it's problems, dunno how much of them were eliminated but then again when i was buying a plasma tv 2 years ago i was also told burn ins aren't a problem anymore.. well let's say i've experienced that it ain't true (and I even picked a panasonic plasma since they had one of the best burn in protecting technologies)
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    I think the whole graphic hysteria is a bit over the top tbh. People bash nintendo for their "last gen graphic" etc. I dont know about others, but I for one would much rather sit down and play some ancient Mario64 over the next "ultra-realistic-super-awesome-effects" COD. Graphics dont make the games. However, graphics can help to hide a game's (often many) flaws, since your average gamer is just drooling over the GFX.
    With the "lack of" graphics, it puts much more pressure on the game itself to be good. Its the game that decides if it will sell or not, not the amount of pixels on the screen.

    I grew up with nintendo, so naturally Im a Nintendo "fan"... But, nintendo have "stopped in time" on the console market ever since they sold rareware during the transition to GC. Of course, nintendo still have some really strong titles like mario, mario kart and zelda. But lately, apart from zelda, all we get is pretty much the same thing as the last game with very little differences.

    The 3rd party-support isnt that great either, mainly because nintendo does some stupid things - like releasing the WiiU out of the blue pretty much without telling any dev. about it.
    As for the WiiU itself... I think its a biiiig step backwards. Why they dumped the motion controllers I'll never understand - that was the best thing about the Wii!
    The only drawback was the lack of games that really used the motions to its full potential. All we got was stupid sports and exercise games... I actually only found ONE game that worked awesomely well with the motion controls - red steel 2. The first red steel was a disaster, but the 2nd was awesome at every level. Skyward Sword was also very good, but the controller bugged quite often forcing you to recalibrate it ever so often....

    Ok enough about nintendo, I just get depressed talking about them


    As for sony/M$ and their consoles... The PS3 is actually the first sony console Ive owned for more than a month(I bought a PS2 when GTA:SA was released and sold it after I was done with it lol). Before that I stuck with xbox/gamecube, and 360/Wii. The first xbox was great when you chipped it, since it was basically a PC and could be used as media center etc etc. The games were crap though(imo). GC was a lot of fun, but the lack of rare was obvious...
    blablablabla NO ONE CARES! ok ok....

    From my point of view, without ever holding the PS4 or XBone controller, Sony have better games than M$, while M$ have a superior controller(ok, the original big-as-a-house xbox controller was a disgrace...).
    But, the controller is pretty much the only thing M$ did better than Sony this(PS3/360) generation. Both consoles have the same mainstream games, both have a store where you can get demos or even buy games, both allows you to play online against other people - but on the 360 you have to pay to play online, while the PS3 is free.
    As for the quality of the consoles... They both shared similar issues(RROD/YLOD), Sony allows you to change the HDD freely, while M$ is like "no FU, u pay us many monies for this super-special-super-expensive HDD or GTFO!! kkthxbye"
    In terms of sound levels.. The PS3(fat) has a jet-engine rather than a fan - that shouldnt spin that fast on a healthy/new console. The 360(also fat) on the other hand, has 30 machineguns rather than a DVD-drive - and that thing spins ALL the time when you play... Several years later M$ decided to allow users to install the games on the HDD, reducing the machineguns to 2-3 rather than 30.
    Disassembling the 2 is pretty much the same story... The PS3 feels quite robust(except the SS...), while the 360 is 10 tons of plastic with some idiotic (nearly)screwless design. Ok fine, maybe one shouldnt bash a console for being frustrating to open but... God damn it M$....

    Anyway, if sony and M$ keeps doing their thing like this gen., Im fairly sure I'll get the PS4 over the XBone... I'll probably end up buying a WiiU as well when the real next Zelda is announced(yes, Im a sucker for LoZ lol). Although as it stands atm I think I'll stick to my PC for the "next gen" games, at least the HDMI-out port works fine on my PC - compared to some PS4's


    Ok I have no idea what Im writing about anymore, or why, when and how... Well, a cookie for those that read the whole thing of gibberish o/

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