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    At the courteous attention of hellsin9 and guys staff!!!

    hellsing9's words quoted:

    Let's see, in 2013 i closed that thread. For the same reason that what's happening today.
    As a legit user, i didn't like the idea of having more cheat0rs while playing. But...sadly that's out of *everyone* reach.

    Many bashed me because i closed it, others don't.
    Same **** is happening today, questioning morals behind such thread. While we are on a PS3 hacks site.

    1) Sony won't do a thing to fix this situation.
    2) OFW's getting hammered?. I didn't see happening so often.
    3) CFW's getting hammered?. All the time, that's why that thread and a quick google search is the easy way out to get back online.

    I got that thread closed almost 1 week, a week enough to understand that the web is full of guys selling/trading you name it and making money with this. (big money).

    While the poll (i made a similar one in 2013) is showing:

    1) 36 users voted YES to remove IDPS section.
    2) 27 users voted NOT to remove that section.

    I don't see a huge difference in those numbers, if users of this community will strongly disagree on that section and thread being online on this site.
    Those who voted to remove it have to be considerable higher.

    This being said, is useless to keep up with this.
    Many will agree, others don't but the one to make that final decision is the owner along with staff.




    This my think:

    I really think this will be my last speech in regard to this issue,
    yes, seems it is becoming a problem rather than a simple survey,
    I remember very well when this happened the other time in 2013,
    and do not understand why you have re-opened the poll, considering that your intent is to, regardless of the results, to adopt the same guidelines as last time,
    At this point, I'm sorry to say, that the fault is uniquely your own (of staff guys) if things go this way,
    you know how things would turn out, and have re-opened this discussion,
    so you yourselves are the cause of this needless and flaming rekindling of user's spirits,
    even if there was only one vote in more, who would not want the free section IDPs remain open, than those who would like to be open,
    you staff, you should take it seriously into account,
    otherwise this whole thing would not make sense.
    That said,
    I want to say that the last time, although I was not agree, I respected your directives, as always, because this is not my forum but is a communities that have its master and his operators,
    and then because, fundamentally, I have more serious things to think about.


    All this, I was writing, while the discussion drama and the survey, were still open,
    then I saw that you guys have closed and the children, without doubt, have won as before in 2013,
    Even I followed ps3-news and PSX-Scene, I follow all sites,
    but at some point I stopped participating in those places because I do not like what they do,
    I am exposed to defend, those who seemed the principles of ps3hax, or your principles,
    to get it, I went down to the same level of children because it is the only way to groped communicate with them
    only now, seeing how the story ended, I realized how stupid I was
    wasting my time,
    they were right, they are stronger, they are smarter, they know how to make you do what they want.
    it breaks my heart to have to do it, but I'm a consistent person, despite all the respect to you @hellsing9 for @Wolfie708 , @playerkp420 , @haz367 , @zecoxao , @judges , @DEFAULTDNB , @bayleyscream , and all those who now do not come to mind, sorry but you are so many,
    I do not dislike most in the places where always win, kids who and who wants ever everything easy and free, to the detriment of others, without the least respect for the fundamental principles of true hacking, hacking is not necessarily dishonesty!

    With respect DebugBrain
    Last edited by DebugBrain; 07-30-2014 at 08:05 AM.

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    I take FULL responsibility, but as mentioned in my other posts, I DID actually assume that people could be mature and act as adults............................... Yeah, like that is EVER going to happen nowadays.

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    The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

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    "Don't get even, get mad.".

    The joker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie708 View Post
    I take FULL responsibility, but as mentioned in my other posts, I DID actually assume that people could be mature and act as adults............................... Yeah, like that is EVER going to happen nowadays.
    No need to. After all, as i stated if the poll ended and users continued to argue for 4 or 8 days more on that same thread.
    Still that final decision if that sub-section stays or not, is from the owner of this site.

    Is obvious that if there's such negative feedback towards that section from the community and those results were shown in the poll. I mean a big difference, a BIG ONE in numbers.
    That could helped A LOT to push that sub-section out and the thread too. Along with a CIVILIZED discussion between peers.
    But all this happened due to the constant *****ing of N00b*IDPS*Zega on that thread.
    Instead of focusing so much on explaining why is not *Ethical* or why is not *Morally correct*, many decided not to vote or didn't want to. Rightfully so.

    If you want something to change, i guess the best way is to fight for it and get deep into the mud. If you see you can't change it by your own, you get help.
    If with help is not enough, then maybe is time to call it a day and done.

    That's why since 2013, NO ONE even dare to make somehing with that thread or regarding IDPS. Until that thread got closed by me and then the sub-section appearead with that thread in it.
    Not even the *most respected* member touched that thread nor the owner.

    **** happens, another hit (i lost count about how many so far this week).
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    You can never have a civilized discussion when you have members calling other members butthurt just to get a reaction (I reacted) and then they start trolling.
    Even going as far as trolling a certain member to other threads and then going on to harass said member via PM.

    Doesn't matter now though does it, the vote and those who voted against, have been ignored and the section reopened.

    @Wolfie708 's post stating that WE decide:



    The Poll Result at closure:



    In the little time that we had to vote, the answer was in favour of closing the section, therefore it should be closed.

    So I guess it's time for the Staff to speak to @Pirate about it?
    Last edited by JonahUK; 07-30-2014 at 10:44 AM.

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    I don't fully understand it all but I do so very strongly disgree with ANY online hacking
    yes running your own private lobby is not a bad thing but so very very often in life it gets abused
    or people take things too far thinking they are clever when in fact 99.999% of us are just following
    guides/tutorials written by much more wiser people.
    Sad when things get abused by a small minority with little or even no integrity / common sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonahUK View Post
    You can never have a civilized discussion when you have members calling other members butthurt just to get a reaction (I reacted) and then they start trolling.
    Even going as far as trolling a certain member to other threads and then going on to harass said member via PM.

    Doesn't matter now though does it, the vote and those who voted against, have been ignored and the section reopened.

    @Wolfie708 's post stating that WE decide:



    The Poll Result at closure:



    In the little time that we had to vote, the answer was in favour of closing the section, therefore it should be closed.

    So I guess it's time for the Staff to speak to @Pirate about it?
    fully agreed, but hey do whatever u like guys, it doesn't make sense tho..as the poll, is in favor of the people voting No, doesn't matter it's a close result..
    what's the point in having a poll and then ignoring the results?

    anyway, it's "vechten tegen de bierkaai" guys...just let it go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonahUK View Post
    You can never have a civilized discussion when you have members calling other members butthurt just to get a reaction (I reacted) and then they start trolling.
    Even going as far as trolling a certain member to other threads and then going on to harass said member via PM.

    Doesn't matter now though does it, the vote and those who voted against, have been ignored and the section reopened.

    @Wolfie708 's post stating that WE decide:



    The Poll Result at closure:



    In the little time that we had to vote, the answer was in favour of closing the section, therefore it should be closed.

    So I guess it's time for the Staff to speak to @Pirate about it?
    Quote Originally Posted by haz367 View Post
    fully agreed, but hey do whatever u like guys, it doesn't make sense tho..as the poll, is in favor of the people voting No, doesn't matter it's a close result..
    what's the point in having a poll and then ignoring the results?

    anyway, it's "vechten tegen de bierkaai" guys...just let it go....
    *Sighs*

    Because even a handful of people sulking are more than enough to ruin the site as a whole (Some have apologised and for that I DO respect them )

    Lesser of 2 evils is a good way to put it, so just accept that the lesser evil has been chosen (in relation to site peace) and live with it please. The hassle has gone on way too long already

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    Oh, so now it's a hassle??? Seriously?

    So after all YOUR words saying that WE decide, you just do the opposite?

    Nice one.

    EDIT:
    How about a compromise then? Keep the section but remove the ID's
    There are tools that they can use to get the ID's so the ID's do not need to be posted.

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